Kile Antone. Country Artist

With over 38 years of musical experience. Kile brings a heartfelt blend of country and gospel music to every performance.His passion for storytelling through song and his deep roots in traditional sounds create a connection that resonates with audiences of all ages!

Check him out at 

www.kileantonemusic.com

Transcript

SPEAKER_03 0:01

Oh God. It's just I don't know what it is about a rainy frickin' day, man. It just makes you want to just sit around and I don't know. What's your favorite show to watch on TV? My favorite what your favorite show to watch on TV. Oh my. Um I don't watch a lot of TV to be honest with you.

SPEAKER_06 0:22

I don't watch like I used to. Yeah. Uh I I can't even think of a TV show that I even watch now. Uh back in the day it was cops. But yeah. That was a long time ago though. Bad boys, bad boys. Yeah, yeah. But yeah, I don't even I don't even spend any time on fr in front of the TV anymore. I I'm writing music and working and reading and just uh spending time doing that kind of stuff. Yeah. She watches TV all the time. Well, that's because you're busy.

SPEAKER_03 0:53

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 0:53

That's right. That's right.

SPEAKER_03 0:58

She'd be like, I could go in there and bug him, but he's gonna get mad and he's writing a song. And I'll be dad go if he's gonna write a bad song about me. So I'm just gonna be nice.

SPEAKER_06 1:10

She's been watching the Game of Thrones. Uh we've never watched that before, so she's been watching that for the last week or so.

SPEAKER_03 1:16

I actually looked it up and it's fifteen years old. Oh my. And I have never ever seen other than the little shorts that come out. I've never actually seen any part of the Game of Thrones.

SPEAKER_06 1:33

I've seen the little parts she's been watching. I sit in the living room with my guitar, with my headphones on, writing stuff, and I'll look up every once in a while and see something funky on the TV.

SPEAKER_03 1:50

Don't even get me started. There's weird stuff all about. But from what I understand, it captured the the attention of a lot of people back when it first came out.

SPEAKER_06 2:07

It did. It did. It was a big fad. I don't know how many years, how many years did it go, you know? Um I don't Caitlin, you know how many years? Five seasons.

SPEAKER_00 2:17

No, I watched the first episode and uh I couldn't do it anymore. Yeah. It's the brother-sister thing. I know those things back in then, but you know, I just I it it it weirded me out.

SPEAKER_02 2:31

Yeah. Yeah. Just too strange. Well, it does happen.

SPEAKER_03 2:41

I had no clue what you were talking about. Oh Lord. What did mama say? What'd you say? I didn't say Yeah, you did. You held up five, seven. What was it?

unknown 2:56

Eight seasons.

SPEAKER_03 2:56

Eight seasons. Okay, eight seasons.

SPEAKER_05 3:00

I started watching it a couple years ago.

unknown 3:11

I didn't watch it no more.

SPEAKER_03 3:14

Wasn't that the king or whatever his name was? I can't remember his name. But yeah, I liked him and and the ring and all kinds of stuff, so The Lord of the Rings, he was good.

SPEAKER_00 3:32

I just binged watch The Hobbin and Lord of the Rings when I was sick.

SPEAKER_03 3:37

Did you really?

SPEAKER_00 3:38

Yep. I had nothing else to do.

SPEAKER_03 3:41

You know what I binge watched the other day? It was Saturday. I started at noon. I started watching Star Wars. Oh. And then at 11 o'clock at night, I switched over to two and a half men. Little, yeah, it's kind of a change. It was just because it it it was on TV and it started repeating what it already showed that I'd already watched. So I'll find something else.

SPEAKER_06 4:14

You know, I was a little kid whenever Star Wars first came out, and I was crazy about Star Wars. And so I had the the bed clothes, the curtains, the I had all the little figurines. Matter of fact, I've still got a lot of the little figurines. Yeah. I've got some of the big ones. I've got the big Darth Vader head that holds all of them. I had all the spaceships and stuff, but they over the years got in accidents and got buried in backyards.

SPEAKER_03 4:37

Well, I mean, back when it first came out, I was dating a girl and her little brother, he had, I think, every frickin' little Star Wars memorabilia thing toy that you could buy. I mean, he even had the big ships and the Millennium Falcon and all that stuff, and I'm just like, I wish I wonder if he still got that stuff.

SPEAKER_06 5:12

Even if they're in bad shape, if they're original.

SPEAKER_03 5:15

Well, I mean, I didn't even know this, but first run stuff is more valuable than something that they've made later on. And I'm just like, wow, okay. I learned that from the Big Bang Theory. It's something about mint in box.

SPEAKER_01 5:32

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 5:33

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 5:34

I don't think I kept a box to anything. It was just grab the toy and go play out in the yard with it. Because back then you played in the yard.

SPEAKER_03 5:41

Well, I mean, back then we done stuff that some kids don't even think about, you know.

SPEAKER_06 5:51

Yeah. I was blessed. I was raised in the mountains of South Carolina, and so I ran the the hills and swam in the rivers and the lakes and ponds and well see we had uh I had a creek down below where I was raised up.

SPEAKER_03 6:08

Uh before mom and dad bought their place over off of uh Jones Avenue. And uh dude, we had a big creek and it was full of crawfish all the time, and we just had all kinds of stuff going on. Caitlin's throwing stuff at me, I guess. I don't know. What are you doing over there?

SPEAKER_00 6:29

I was checking my phone and I dropped it.

SPEAKER_03 6:32

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_06 6:34

Yeah, salamanders and all kinds of stuff.

SPEAKER_03 6:37

Oh, yeah, we used to have all kinds of fun.

SPEAKER_06 6:39

Fun, fun.

SPEAKER_03 6:40

One of the guys, uh I can't remember his last name, but I remember his first name. His name was Clint. And uh he had gotten a fish aquarium from somebody and filled it up with creek water and filled it up with crawfish and and had his own little crawfish tank going on, and it was it was wild and pretty cool.

SPEAKER_06 7:07

My youngest brother, I'm the oldest of three boys, and my youngest brother, after I'd moved off and living my life, he grew uh marijuana in a fish tank in his bedroom. Yeah. I came back to visit one day and walked in his room. I said, Mama, do you know Patrick's growing marijuana in his room? She said, I didn't know what that was. Yes, ma'am, that's marijuana. I was a cop back then, so I don't know what it was, but it smelled good. Had a pretty flower on it.

SPEAKER_03 7:35

It's a pretty and some big old buds on them. I just don't understand it.

SPEAKER_06 7:42

So you were a police officer in the day? I was for 20 years. I'm not anymore. I'm a paramedic now.

SPEAKER_03 7:47

Well, I still appreciate your service.

SPEAKER_06 7:49

Well, thank you. I appreciate that.

SPEAKER_03 7:51

My uncle was actually a Metro police officer.

SPEAKER_06 7:54

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 7:55

All the way up till he retired.

SPEAKER_06 7:56

I'm better. Yeah, I started when I was 19 dispatching when I'm 21. I went on the road and visually became a detective and did that for several years and then got out of it.

SPEAKER_03 8:07

So see, I I kind of wanted to do something like that, but then people got to me. I couldn't do it today. I don't think I could do it like today because the first thing if I was a detective, the first thing that would come to my mind is, what in the hell were you thinking? Yep. Yeah, you're right. Did you seriously think? I mean, come on, dude. You're right.

SPEAKER_06 8:39

And my patience has not uh fared well as I've aged. Yeah, yeah. So stupidity just gets on my nerves a lot faster now than it used to. Yeah. So I would probably wind up getting myself fired, or you'd see my picture on the front of the paper and then smack the crap out of somebody. Oh yeah. Bat when I did it, you know, there weren't cameras everywhere you turn, and we didn't have any patrol cars or nothing. They issued me a slapstick whenever I first came out of the academy. You know, just that leather leather strap with lid at the end of it. Yeah. I told some young officer that the other week. He said, What did you do with it? I said, You hit people in the head with it. In the head. That's the only thing you could do with it. That's it. They they got their attitude straight, and you hit them once good one good time with that. Oh yeah. You'd straighten them out. And you didn't have all that fight in your back and everything. No. You took the fight right out of them. You popped them one good time with that.

SPEAKER_03 9:31

Yeah. Because uh, yeah. Um I think my mom still has my uncle's slapstick. Yep. Thick leather, around on the very end. And that round was nothing but lead.

SPEAKER_06 9:47

Yeah, that's a real weapon there now. Just stick it in your back pocket. It's ready to go at any moment.

SPEAKER_03 9:52

Well, I mean, that's where a lot of bike riders got the handkerchief and the padlock.

SPEAKER_06 9:57

Yep.

SPEAKER_03 9:58

Yep, you're right.

SPEAKER_06 10:01

The crap I know. Imagine you could have used one of those on the road as a truck driver, too. Yeah, well, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 10:11

The funny thing about you're not supposed to carry weapons in a commercial vehicle. There is a loophole.

SPEAKER_06 10:25

What is a loophole?

SPEAKER_03 10:27

Single shot, 12-gauge shotgun. Really? You know, where it came from?

SPEAKER_06 10:32

Where?

SPEAKER_03 10:33

Stagecoach.

SPEAKER_04 10:35

Ah.

SPEAKER_03 10:36

That makes a lot of sense. Because back in the day you had your shotgun rider. Yep. Sure did. So it was legal to carry a double barrel or a single shot, 12-gauge shotgun.

SPEAKER_06 10:50

Wow.

SPEAKER_03 10:51

And I never took it off the rule book. That's pretty cool.

SPEAKER_06 10:56

I went to uh from South Carolina to Memphis, Tennessee, and bought a motorcycle many years ago. And um I was gonna take a gray home, I took a greyhound bus up there. Yeah. And then rode the motorcycle back home. And you don't carry no weapons on the Greyhound. I thought, what am I gonna do? Because I I've got to have a weapon on the road. I I never went without one.

SPEAKER_02 11:19

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 11:19

And so I got a ball pinged hammer because I was talking to some of my biker friends, like, man, you put a hammer in your stuff and you that'd take care of whatever you need.

SPEAKER_02 11:25

And I thought, that's a great idea.

SPEAKER_06 11:27

And then later on, the Hell's Angel friends have the little ball pinged hammer, you know, uh pen on their on their vest, and I started making the connection with that weapon. But uh yeah, I rode all the way up to Memphis with a ball pinged hammer in my in my bag.

SPEAKER_03 11:41

Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_06 11:42

But uh yeah, things you'll do, things you way you find around things is fun sometimes.

SPEAKER_03 11:49

Well that's what I liked when they first invented that. It's a little black handle, and you pop it and the long rod comes out. Oh yeah. I can't remember the name of it.

SPEAKER_06 11:59

Whatever it is. Yeah, collapsible straight baton.

SPEAKER_03 12:01

But it was fun.

SPEAKER_06 12:03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 12:05

And it didn't take much to pop a window. No.

SPEAKER_06 12:07

Oh, sure don't. I watched uh we chased a guy one night up in Greenville, South Carolina. And uh he was D UI, ran from us, and and when we finally got him stopped, big trooper came out of the out of the patrol car, big old guy. He rear back and hit this guy's driver's side window with his fist, and that thing exploded. Yeah. And the guy came out the driver's side window rather quickly. But uh, I had never seen anybody bust a window with their fist like that before. But this dude was huge though. He was I didn't want to mess with him. Nice as could be until you cross him.

SPEAKER_03 12:48

Oh yeah. That's that's how most guys are. Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 12:51

Yep.

SPEAKER_03 12:53

Unless they're like, you know, two pick thin and they just whine like a little chihuahua every now and then. Yeah. Little short guys got attitude problems. Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 13:02

That's something to prove. But the worst fights I've ever been in have been with little women. Man, they'll climb me like a spider monkey.

SPEAKER_03 13:12

Well, yeah. That's why I don't fight women.

SPEAKER_06 13:15

I usually didn't either, but you go locking her husband up after he's knocked a crap out of her and then she turns on you and I never understood that. I don't either. I don't either. They'll defend them to the to the death if they have to. It's like fight or flight. Mm-hmm. Makes no sense to me. I have no clue. And she's the one that called you to come out there. Yeah. But she don't want you to do nothing about it. Why do you call?

SPEAKER_03 13:42

But I love him.

SPEAKER_06 13:43

Yeah, oh yeah. He didn't really mean it.

SPEAKER_03 13:47

He didn't mean it. Honey, your arms broke in three places and your jaw was fractured. For the second time. And he didn't mean it.

SPEAKER_06 13:56

He didn't mean it. He really loves you. It's not funny, but it is. You know, you things like that you you just shake your head at and say, What in the world were people thinking?

SPEAKER_03 14:06

Well, yeah. I mean, it's just the way some of it goes, man. It's it just. Ugh.

SPEAKER_06 14:13

And serving as a paramedic, you see some things sometimes and you do have to ask them, I don't even want to. How did you think this was going to turn out? When you said hold my beer, what was the next thought you think was going to happen?

SPEAKER_03 14:26

I guarantee you back in the day when I told somebody to hold my beer, and man, we were fixing to do some stupid stuff.

SPEAKER_05 14:32

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 14:32

Yep. And it was either uh jump a creek or jump your car over across, or I got one for you. You're riding a dirt bike and you're you're you're coming up a ramp and you're gonna jump over two or three cars, and I mean it was like Well, even in the bicycle days, you know, it was like you'd have three or four of your friends lay on the ground and you were jumping over a brick old block with a piece of wood, you know, and you're trying to jump over top of them.

SPEAKER_06 15:02

I got a good one for you. This is 4th of July is always an interesting time if you work for EMS because you know you're gonna get some good calls. And I didn't take this call, another crew did, but this guy had one of these yard cannons, you know, that they build and put the black powder down in and then fire them off. Well, this dude decided he was gonna jump the yard cannon as it went off and it blew his junk and everything else out. Wow. Yeah.

unknown 15:28

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 15:29

Of course he was intoxicated in the process. But uh yeah, he thought that was gonna be a good idea. Actually, I was thinking it would probably be pretty cool. It it I'm sure to observe it it was, but I'm not to experience it personally. But yeah, it was it was a bad big deal for him. It left a mark.

SPEAKER_03 15:46

Uh a little bit. Yep. I was just gonna say 4th of July is I got to do something with something blowing up somewhere.

SPEAKER_06 15:54

Yeah. Yeah, in the uh the in the spring of the year, whenever people burning leaves, that's usually a pretty good time too to get some good burn calls. Oh yeah. Because they throw in what they think is diesel on it and it turns out to be gas. And I watched my dad do that one time, burn his eyelashes and eyebrows straight off his his face, throwing gas on leaves.

SPEAKER_03 16:15

My dad used to take diesel and dishwashing soap and pour it in a like a two two liters back then. And uh he would mix it and pour it in a two-liter and then uh he put the top on the two-liter and poke a hole in the very top of it. So when he squeezed it, it shot a string.

SPEAKER_05 16:46

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 16:47

That's how most brush fires got started in my backyard. Dad would do that crap and then he would light it. Never thought about using the the dish soap with it though. And uh well, the dish soap kept it from erupting so big. Mm-hmm. Interesting. Homemade napalm is what it was. That's exactly what it was. Yep. But it was fun. I mean, it was just I remember we moved into a rental house. It was on Oak Street. The very back of property was just overgrown and and nasty as I'll get out. It it just needed to be cleaned out. And dad's first thought about all of it is okay, I'm gonna walk through and I'm gonna take a stick and I'm gonna poke and I'm gonna chase all the wild rabbits and everything out of there. And then the next thing I know, here he comes, and he's oops big fire. Yep. I can't say I haven't done that before. Well, I mean, we sit out there with marshmallows and sticks and everything else for half the freaking night, man. I mean, it just stayed burning almost all night. Fun times. It was just fun stuff. For a 12-year-old kid, I mean, that was par day.

SPEAKER_01 18:13

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_06 18:15

Yeah. I've had to yell for my wife at least once, hey, I need you go get the other host pipe for me. I don't think this is going to reach where I need to get to with this fire because it's I'm burning off the backyard or clearing out an area.

SPEAKER_03 18:28

That's better than you hollering at her going, hey, bring a band-aid. Yeah, it's true. That's true. Yep.

unknown 18:35

I asked it, what were you thinking?

SPEAKER_03 18:40

You know, that's where that song came from. What was I thinking? Yeah. For real.

SPEAKER_05 18:49

You had a ding don't moment.

SPEAKER_06 18:52

I thought about it, it just didn't quite go that far in the process. Well, sometimes it's a beer moment.

SPEAKER_05 19:00

You're supposed to have that already prepared because you know how it goes at our house. Nothing goes exactly the plan. There's always going to be something that's out of whack.

unknown 19:13

And yeah.

SPEAKER_03 19:14

Let me know the next time y'all do something. I'm gonna come hang out. Oh, I'll be happy to. I'm just gonna come out here and hang out and make some good stories. I'll I'll bring Caitlin with me and we'll bring a video camera and some other stuff.

SPEAKER_06 19:26

Yeah, don't wear your good t shoes, though.

SPEAKER_03 19:28

I ain't worried about that. I'll bring work boots, I ain't gotta worry about it.

unknown 19:36

There you go.

SPEAKER_03 19:41

That song's gonna be in my head the rest of the day now. What was I thinking? That's a good one though. So after all this and doing EMS and everything, what when did this whole music thing come in, man? I mean, it just Well, what happened was uh Oh, every story starts good because when I was a kid When I was setting there one day my dad, when I was 14, bought me my first guitar.

SPEAKER_06 20:16

Sweet. I still have it, Epiphone Troubadour. Oh, okay. And um he gave me the guitar and he gave me a book to show me where to put my fingers on the strings for chords. Yeah. And at that time I had just watched the Buddy Holly movie. Remember that movie with Gary Busey? And I was crazy about the Buddy Holly music. And so I would listen to Buddy Holly music on the radio on a tape. Yeah. Old tech cassettes, and uh sit there and figure out these chords, and next thing you know, I was playing Buddy Holly music on my guitar listening to it. And uh that was uh early 90s, late 80s, early 90s. Yeah. Garth Brooks came out, I went crazy about Garth Brooks music. Yeah. The whole Garth Brooks album, then Ropin in the Wind came out, and and um, and so I started playing my guitar for my friends playing Garth Brooks songs. Next thing you know, I'm playing festivals and and different things around my hometown. And um, and a guy from Nashville happened to be passing through one of our festivals and talking to my mom. I was 16, and said, Um, this boy's got talent. I'd like to take him to Nashville and see what we can do with it. And my mama said, Nope, he's gonna finish high school.

SPEAKER_05 21:28

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 21:29

So then I got my driver's license and got a girlfriend, and music went to the back.

SPEAKER_03 21:34

It usually happens like that.

SPEAKER_06 21:36

Music went to the back. I'd play at home, you know, every once in a while. Started working uh in law enforcement, that that kind of took my my interest over completely. And then um uh just playing in church every once in a while, but I didn't play sing out anywhere for thirty years. So fast forward to fifty, I'm now fifty. I'm 53 now.

SPEAKER_03 22:01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 22:01

At 50, I told my wife one day, I said, they got this thing called an open mic down at one of the breweries in our town. I said, I think I want to go try that. So I went down there with my little cheap fender acoustic guitar and uh played three songs and the people went crazy. And I got a phone call the next week from a business down in Edgefield, South Carolina that said, we would love for you to come down to a show. We heard a video of you singing at the brewery. We'd like you to come do a show. I said, a show? Like three hours of singing? I don't even know that I know that many songs. So I like started cramming trying to get as many songs as I could figure it out. And so I went and did that. And from that, son, it went crazy. And so last year was my first full year of doing music. And um somebody had told me the year before that, they said, if you really want to do something, you gotta write your own music.

SPEAKER_02 22:59

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 22:59

And I said, Well, I've never written anything. I've I barely graduated high school, so I gotta figure out how to write music. So I struggled with it for a while, finally wrote my first song, and um, and that has taken off, and that kind of took me to the next level. So I did 65 shows last year. Yeah. Um, I'm already at 60 for this year, and I'm shooting for 125 this year. Oh, you'll probably get it. I've been to Nashville now three times to sing, and that has been surprising. That's here we are all these years later, I'm finally making it up here to to do a little bit of something. Um and so this last three years has been a whirlwind of of being discovered inside of me, discovering the music's still there, and and it's it's deeper and wider than I thought it was.

SPEAKER_02 23:52

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 23:52

And then others people, other people hearing it and liking it, and it's like, you you thought that really sounded good, and yeah, man, that was great. And I was like, I thought I sucked at that, but yeah, but because I'm not the greatest fan of my own voice singing, but other people love it, and so I enjoy singing. It's kind of like uh you said you said I could be pretty uh expressive. For me, it's kind of like you know, when you've held your pee for so long and then you finally go and pee, and it's like singing now is like that for me. It's something that's in me that's been held in for so long, and yeah, and now it's coming out, and it's like, oh, this is so lethargic, it's so just uh satisfying just to do this, and and a benefit of it is people like it. Oh yeah. And so, I mean, I've I've heard those guys probably like you have that can't carry a tune in a bucket, but they enjoy doing it, and they're having a great time, and that's great, but it's not good to hear. But fortunately, I think a lot of people are enjoying what I'm doing, and I'm enjoying what I'm doing, so it's a win-win situation. Um But it's been it's been fun. My wife has supported me in this. She's been right there beside me. She's my she's my uh bodyguard, she's my roadie, she's my my biggest fan, my groupie, my biggest critique.

SPEAKER_03 25:14

And one keeping you on the calendar schedule and everything.

SPEAKER_06 25:18

Yeah, yeah. She has been a great blessing just saying, if you want to do it, chase that dream. Go for it. Yeah. So um, and I didn't even realize I still had the dream in me, because I've worked. You know, I I that's all I've ever done. I just work. Yeah. I never had any hobbies, I never did anything for fun. I I go hunting, but you go hunting to shoot a deer so you can put food in the in the freezer or not. Yeah. I didn't do it as this is fun for me. Yeah. Um and so to discover something that I'm enjoying doing. And and I can make a little bit of money off of it too, and and other people are enjoying it. It's just been a great thing.

SPEAKER_03 25:54

Well, I mean, that's the uh that's the dream. You yeah. Something that you enjoy and you love to do, and you manipulate it and twist it and try to make a few dollars off of it.

SPEAKER_06 26:04

Yeah. And I'm not uh to be honest with you, I I'd love to make a bunch of money off of it. That's not even really the goal. At this point, I won't make enough money to cover what I'm spending out doing it. Uh that that would be great. Good luck with that.

SPEAKER_03 26:18

I can tell you right up front. Good luck with that.

SPEAKER_06 26:22

But it's uh coming to Nashville is not even really one of my goals. It was I just enjoy singing and want to express myself this way. And and the doors that have begun to open up have just been incredible to see. Nothing I'm forcing, nothing I'm trying for. It's just it just keeps happening. And so I step through the next next one that opens up and see what happens from here. And if it goes no further, that's fine. And if it does, that's fine too. I'm just kind of riding it and enjoying it. Ride the wave, man.

SPEAKER_03 26:52

Yeah, yeah. I mean, the bad part about it, and I've told several people this once you get to a certain age. Isn't it about time you've done stuff for yourself? Yes.

SPEAKER_06 27:06

And I felt bad about that at first. When I first started this at 50, I thought, I'm being so selfish. This is crazy. I just spent $7,000 on a guitar. That was crazy. Why did I just do that? But man, it sounds really good. Something about that tone. And I convinced myself, well, I can I'm gonna make that money back by doing these shows. And so I can justify it in my head. But yeah, I I really did, I really did struggle with am I doing something wrong by having fun and doing something for me?

SPEAKER_02 27:37

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 27:37

Um, and and even in the days ahead may even have folks challenge me with that because as this continues to grow, um, what will my future working look like? You know, is it am I gonna be able to do that?

SPEAKER_03 27:53

Oh, you you're definitely gonna be working.

SPEAKER_06 27:54

I definitely but uh as far as the job I have now, and you know, will will that change? Will this eventually take over to be to a place to where this could be the main income and that we could be riding out into the sunset doing this and you know it's like I've told everybody because I've been in this business for a long freaking time.

SPEAKER_03 28:18

If you're in the music industry, you got a day job. Yeah, you're gonna have to. Well, because you're paying for those instruments, you're paying for this, you're paying for recording, you're paying a PR person or a record label or this or that. And it's all money. It is. Everything is all money.

SPEAKER_06 28:44

Well, I did um law enforcement for many years, and while I was a police officer, uh, I know we don't go deep into this, but it is part of who I am.

SPEAKER_03 28:54

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_06 28:55

Um while I was uh my early years in law enforcement, I felt called to be a pastor.

SPEAKER_03 29:01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 29:01

So I've been a pastor for 28 years. I still pastor two churches now. And um and singing country music and writing country music and out here in the bars and in all these places singing and playing it, and my folks support me in the churches. They they come to hear my show and uh they they're excited about what's happening. Yeah. Um, but if this grows to the point to where there comes a time I have to make a decision, do I continue on where I'm at now or do I follow this dream on a little further down the road, probably be some folks will have hurt hearts because you know what I mean? Um so but I I'm still I'm still feeling that out. Feel, you know, it before I take any step in a direction, I want to make sure this is the right step to take. Yeah. And uh, you know, I I spend a lot of time praying about it and just saying, is this me or is this something bigger than me that's happening that then I'm I'm following the path that's for me right now? Does that make sense?

SPEAKER_03 30:00

It makes great sense because I can speak from personal knowledge. If there's a path laid in front of you, there's always, because somebody's got a sense of humor, there's always two or three other little paths. Yes, sir. You just got to figure out which path actually is the one that you're meant to be on. That's right. That's right. There's uh and he is a humorous fella.

SPEAKER_06 30:35

He sure is. He sure is. Yeah, you just look over my life, you though, my lord, yeah. He's definitely got a sense of humor. But um, but yeah, it's been it's it's uh that's kind of where I'm at this point, is things are happening so fast.

SPEAKER_02 30:50

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 30:51

And and and so many doors are opening up so quickly, I'm having to slow myself down. So, okay, let me let me make sure I'm not getting caught up in this and I'm I'm keeping my head straight. Yeah. Because I still I still have to keep the power on, I still have to, you know, live life as a normal person. So I gotta I gotta figure out how all that works. Um But it's it's it's been a great journey thus far. Uh a new part of that path is um me signing with Leon Everett GAC Records. So three, four weeks ago, I don't even know who Leon Everett is, to be honest with you. I don't think anybody knows who nearly is. And he uh so he was doing a show in the county next to ours, and uh the guy that was hosting the show or sponsoring the show, he said, Would you come and open up for Leon?

SPEAKER_03 31:46

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 31:47

Like, yeah, I'll I'd be happy to. And so uh I showed up at the show, still not really knowing who Leon Everett was, and um introduced myself to him. And it was funny, one of the first things Leon said was, I'm not signing anybody to my record company. I was like, okay, I wasn't gonna talk to you about that. I'm just introducing myself to you.

SPEAKER_02 32:08

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 32:08

But uh apparently somebody in front of me that was there had been ribbing him pretty hard about trying to get him signed with the record company, and so he figured I was, yeah, he figured I was gonna be in line for that same argument. And so uh I introduced myself, got up, did my 45-minute set before Leon went on stage, and when I come off stage and he was coming on stage, he said, Do not leave until I talk to you. I thought, okay. And so he got done with this set, uh, came down off stage, all his fans were coming up to him and talking and stuff, and he came straight over to me and was like, Do not leave until I talk to you. And I was like, Okay, I'm not going in here. Yes, sir. I'm not going anywhere. And so after uh everybody left and everything was done, he sat down with me. He's like, I know I told you I wasn't signing anybody else. He said, But man, you got a voice. He said, Do have you ever thought about signing with a record company? I said, Well, I don't really know what that means, to be honest with you. You've got to explain it to me because I'm so green at this. Yeah. What does that mean, signing with a record company? And so he said, Well, you need to come down to dine in my house next week and let's just sit down and talk about it. And so uh Wendy and I took off down there. Wendy's my wife, uh took off down there and uh sat down and talked with him for about three hours and four hours. It was a minute, it was long. You know, you get talking to him, you you there for a little while.

SPEAKER_03 33:29

Well, yeah. And uh because he's been on my show several times, trust me.

SPEAKER_06 33:34

So we um yeah, he kind of explained what the benefits of that could be. And uh, and so I I said yes, I I would be interested in pursuing this further. And so it's he connected me with you. Uh I told him, I said, I'm coming to Nashville to do a podcast to playlist it out on the green light bar, and yeah, they contacted me several months ago and wanted me to come. And he said, Well, I got somebody else you need to talk to. And so he set us up together, and that's been a a blessing. Oh, easy. I've enjoyed this time with you thus far.

SPEAKER_03 34:07

Well, I mean, I I've Leon was was like I said, he he actually when I first started my show, um, he was in town and his manager at the time booked him on my show. And he came up and hung out, and we just sat there and had a blast talking, you know, because a lot of people are new on the digital and all this other stuff, you know, and he's sitting across the table from a guy that actually recorded real to real and aid at tape and done all this stuff, and I'm in that knowledgeable path that he was had, you know. And uh we just connected and had a lot of fun, you know. I like to consider him a good friend, you know.

SPEAKER_06 35:00

And he and I were coming that way, we're becoming really good friends. Yeah, we connected on the the the music side and the and the Christian side of things, and so we've we've really hit off a good relationship there. Yeah, and both of us are full of crap, so we go back and forth with that constant, which I love because he can he can take it as much as he can give it. Oh yeah, he's hilarious. But uh, and Diane and my wife they've hit it off really well, and uh we enjoy pumpkin and their little dog and oh pumpkin.

SPEAKER_03 35:34

But yeah, it's been a blessing. Um I'm telling you, I get jealous of pumpkin. A lot of people probably always do it before. I would love to be pushed around and and pampered like that dog. I know, I know. That dog is there's kids that are not pampered as good as that dog.

SPEAKER_06 35:53

That's a new, again, another door that opened up that I did not see coming. And uh he was like, You ready to do your first album? I was like, Well, I've already done five songs, they're out there on all the streaming platforms now. He said, Well, we can help you work on the rest of that and put all that together. And and uh he's been a good mentor to say, you know, look for this, look for that. You know, this is a trap that you might fall into if you're not careful. And and he's fallen into plenty of them himself, and so I'm dude. I was gonna say from his experience.

SPEAKER_03 36:24

He's uh he's been in the industry when the industry was not uh lucrative for artists. Yeah, that was the best way I could figure out how to say that. Yeah, yeah. Um but I mean, you know, we've we've all been up through times where you gotta watch everybody you deal with. Yes. And even if you got a contract, you still gotta watch everybody you deal with.

SPEAKER_06 36:56

That's the part that I think I am most apprehensive about at this point, is being I'm so green and so new at this of being taken advantage of, or somebody taking my music or yeah uh you know, and not that I'm trying to hoard it all for myself, but I'm just I don't want to be used. I I I will give you anything I've got if you are up front with me and honest, but if you try to hoodoo me, that just pisses me off. And I that's when I'm ready to go on the fighting side. So um I'm trying to make sure that I don't stumble into something I don't need to be in and get connected to something I don't need to be connected to. Um that's that's the that's the fear. So I'm trying to be wise. If I can glean from Leon or anybody else like you, some of the stuff you've already shared with me, you know, I I take all that in and I chew that over like could, and I'm chewing on it constantly thinking about it because uh Well it's uh my girlfriend was telling me this morning, she's like, What was you doing last night?

SPEAKER_03 38:06

I said, Do what? And she said you were like talking coherently in your sleep, and I'm like, Was it about music? And then she said, You were talking about somebody named Christy, and I'm like, Did I say exactly what what what was the conversation? And she was telling me about it, and I said that's Christy, he used to be with a lot of big record labels and stuff like that, and he's you know got a portfolio of you know songs and he's got catalog and all this other stuff, and he's uh doing a new venture that I've actually talked to him and and Brian about and uh actually working uh about getting them on the show because so we could discuss that venture because it's something that I think is gonna help out a lot of uh new artists. And I'll tell you more about it later. But I just thought it was weird because I'm having full on conversations in my sleep.

SPEAKER_02 39:21

Oh, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 39:22

And I'm just like because you hear people all the time, they wake up in the middle of the night and they're writing stuff down and say where did you oh I was dreamed out and I'm I'm okay. I've had that happen.

SPEAKER_06 39:34

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 39:34

They're running out of the shower to write something down, you know. Yep. That's what I I find myself doing that.

SPEAKER_06 39:41

I do I have inspirational thoughts or whatever that's leading towards a song. Did it coming up the road? Here it was pouring down rain. We're coming up I-75, going through uh oh, what was I? I I got it written down. It's uh some stations, uh Union, Union Grove. Yeah. Union Grove wrote off I-75. Yeah. And uh I started writing a song on that. I got my phone and started speaking into it so I could remember it later. But uh yeah, I have that happen. First song I ever wrote, um, I woke up out of my sleep and sat down and wrote it within an hour. Yeah. It was I it was all in my sleep. I just had to wake up and and write it down. And I think that's that's some of the only time my brain will slow down enough to be able to work through some of that creative stuff.

SPEAKER_03 40:30

I can't turn mine off.

SPEAKER_06 40:31

I I have a real hard time turning it off. For a long time I had nightmares all the time. It was the PTSD stuff that I was dealing with. And so finally that has calmed down, and and now I'm I'm getting more sleep than I used to, but um, yeah, I I have a hard time cutting my brain off. Yeah, I'm tossing turns at two or three in the morning looking at the ceiling. Somebody else in this room though can lay her head down and like five seconds later she's snoring. And I'm like, what the heck?

SPEAKER_03 41:00

I was just gonna say. Yeah. That's where I'm weird. I can sit down, I can go in there and turn on TV. Five minutes later I'm asleep. Really? I can go lay down in the bed. Five minutes after my head at that pillow, I'm out.

SPEAKER_01 41:19

I'm a drink.

SPEAKER_03 41:20

I don't understand it. But uh I guess according to the girlfriend, I'm having conversations with people in my sleep.

SPEAKER_06 41:28

So well, good thing it was business conversation.

SPEAKER_03 41:31

Well, yeah.

SPEAKER_06 41:31

I mean, it's uh was it uh Crystal Gill. You've been talking in your sleep.

SPEAKER_03 41:38

Oh yeah. Well, I mean, the romantics. You know, I hear the things that you talk about in your sleep.

SPEAKER_06 41:48

Oh yeah. Yeah, I forgot about that one.

SPEAKER_03 41:49

Yeah. I don't know why I've been on a romantics kick here lately. The past couple of shows I've done, we were talking about romantics. One guy swore them down, he'd never uh Christian Parker, he he swore him down, he he didn't know any romantic songs. And then I started out singing, That's what I like about you. You keep me warm at night, and all this next thing I know, we're doing a duet and singing, and he's like, Well, I guess I do know. Yeah, everybody knows that freaking song, dude. Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_06 42:24

Well, it turned out I knew a Leon Everett song and didn't realize I knew it. And that's the song Hurricane. Yeah, but I knew it by the band of Heathens. I didn't just realize Leon did it. Yeah. And then once I and I teased him the other day about it, um, then once I started listening to some of the other songs, some of it started kind of coming back to me. I thought, I think I remember hearing this as a kid. Yeah, when I was a little kid, he was like, Oh yeah, I see what you're saying. I'm old. I know I'm old. I get it, I'm old.

SPEAKER_03 42:52

But yeah, um, I was talking to somebody the other day. It wasn't on a show or anything, it was just we a couple of people talking, and they were talking about they how much they loved the song Hurricane. And I said, by who? Well, the band of heathens. And I'm like, You know who cut that, right? Well, wasn't it the band? No. Well, who was it? Leon Everett. What? I said, Yeah. And they were like, no way. And then they started looking it up and pulled it up and found it. But where they had heard it was Band Heathen's.

unknown 43:33

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 43:34

For the younger generation, that's that's all it's gonna be connected to.

SPEAKER_06 43:38

But and I like both the versions. Both have unique sounds to them. Oh yeah. And so I like I like both of them.

SPEAKER_03 43:44

I like it though when you can take if a different person can add more spir perspective to it, enhance the song, I'm great. But if somebody else cuts it and they downgrade it, I I just that tears me up. But I'm just like, what's like remaking movies?

SPEAKER_06 44:02

Like you can remake a movie, but if you make it suck, you should have never made that movie. Leave it alone. Some things are sacred, leave them alone. Yeah. I don't understand it. I think the first concert I ever saw. You were talking about concerts earlier. Um, the first concert that I vaguely have remember can remember. Um, I was with my grandmother and my mother, and we saw Conway Tweety in an outdoor concert back when I was real small. First song was ever recorded of me singing, I was about three, and it was Rhinestone Cowboy. Uh by Glenn Campbell. It was on an eight-track. My mom had it for a long time. It's gone now. I don't even know where it's at.

SPEAKER_03 44:39

Oh, yeah. Like a rhinestone cowboy cowboy.

SPEAKER_06 44:41

And just recently I have added that to my yeah, to my set list of songs I learned.

SPEAKER_03 44:46

Riding down on a horse in a star spangled rodeo. Yeah, good. I can not sing.

SPEAKER_06 44:55

That's that's uh again, another very talented musician. Oh, yeah, that was that was a musician.

SPEAKER_03 45:02

Yeah. Those are well, I mean, you know, that's uh I was talking about the other day. There are so many people from back in that era that are known for certain songs. But if you actually look at it, Glenn Campbell played a lot of amazing guitar. He sure did. Jerry Reed. Charlie Daniels. Charlie Daniels besides the fiddle.

SPEAKER_06 45:40

Yeah, you know, he was probably a better guitar player than he was a fiddler.

SPEAKER_03 45:45

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 45:46

Bob Dylan liked him.

SPEAKER_03 45:48

And people don't understand that, you know, they're just like, well, they didn't remember the song, and that's it. They don't know who played on it or anything else. And I'm just like, dude, you don't understand.

SPEAKER_06 45:59

One that still blows my mind is Roy Clark. How in the world he made those guitars make those sounds that they did.

SPEAKER_03 46:06

Just amazing to me. I've told some people, because I I've I've actually found a a whole trove of YouTube videos on Roy Clark and how he is tapping on the guitar and how he'll have that guitar, electric guitar and a microphone, talking to the audience and playing all this stuff and loving every second of it, man. You could just see the emotion on his face, how much he loves it.

SPEAKER_06 46:42

Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 46:44

And it was just those are true entertainers. Yes.

SPEAKER_06 46:47

True entertainers.

SPEAKER_03 46:48

And you don't find him anymore.

SPEAKER_06 46:49

No, you don't. You don't. And you know, that's uh I'm trying to learn how to be an entertainer. I'm a I'm a better singer than I'm entertainer. Um it's it's it's difficult for me. No, it's not coming out of my shell and and like entertaining people.

SPEAKER_03 47:10

No, you you've always been an entertainer. Well, maybe some. You have just forgotten about it. Yeah. That could be true. You need to go back to when you were four years old. Yeah. Five years old. Mama, look at me. Mama, mama, you know.

SPEAKER_01 47:25

Let's not have the shorts and cowboy boots on.

SPEAKER_03 47:27

Well, you can do the shorts and cowboy boots. You can do whatever you want to.

SPEAKER_06 47:30

It's for another type.

SPEAKER_03 47:31

But we all we all did that. We all tried to get the attention of other people. We all tried to do something funny, something cute, you know, because there was so much of it that you just had fun with it, you know.

SPEAKER_06 47:46

I did a show at a place in South Carolina called Sky The Skyline. It's in Columbia. It used well, it still is the largest dance floor in South Carolina at Skyline.

SPEAKER_03 47:56

Okay.

SPEAKER_06 47:56

Uh, but back in March, I played there for the very first time, and uh I was stuck at the microphone, and and a guy that had watched it, he said, next time you go, try to move around some. I was so nervous. I was just I was stuck. And so the second time we went, which was in May, um I I moved, I like like stepped away from the microphone and moved around the state.

SPEAKER_05 48:17

I felt so weird.

SPEAKER_06 48:19

I was like, oh my gosh. Because I'm used to standing at a pulpit and preaching, you know, and and I can move from there and it ain't a problem. But boy, move from that microphone when I'm singing feels so strange to me. But I'm disciplined myself to do that. Yeah, I'm learning how to shake my butt and dance a little bit, although I'm not a big dancer. I I'm I'm learning to do those little things that are starting to be more of a showman, yeah, just a singer. Because I want to be the best at both. And you know, so I'm I'm on a journey to learn and discover.

SPEAKER_03 48:49

Well, I mean, you don't have to necessarily dance, right. Feed the crowd. Yes. Sing. If you got a real good song, sing. If you can make eye contact with three or four people right up front and you can bring that song to them, yeah. It's a connection. Because a lot of things nowadays are about that connection. Yeah. That's why everybody's doing the social media stuff and and everything else. You know, it's like the big thing now is these artists, they'll do Facebook Lives every now and then, or you'll see 'em there on a boat, out on the lake and fishing. And uh, Becca Bowen, she makes me madder and I'll get out half daggone time because she's always posting pictures of when she's out at her parents out on the bait, uh out on the lake, and she's holding up a catfish that she caught, or she's holding up a rock fish or something, you know, that she caught. And I'm like, Yeah. And that's uh but that's the things that people love seeing now.

SPEAKER_02 50:04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 50:05

Because they want to be more they want to be connected with you more on a personal level than they do on a music level.

SPEAKER_06 50:11

Yes. And that's what I'm learning is to how to and I can do that. It's just doing it in this setting is yeah, is something new. So I'm I'm learning to do that and to let people get close to me and get to know me as a person.

SPEAKER_02 50:26

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 50:26

You know, for 28 years I've been the policeman, the pastor, the paramedic, you know, and that's that's been my identity, and it's not really who I am, that's what I do. And we can get deep into that, but yeah. Um and and for me to discover who I am and then let others get close to me to know who I am is is been a uh interesting journey. It's scary. It is scary. Because you're vulnerable. Yes. I come from uh I come from a Native American home. Um we're O Nida Indians and a lot of alcohol and drug abuse in my family. And yeah. And so I've been guarded my whole life.

SPEAKER_03 51:04

Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_06 51:05

And to to be vulnerable to people is very difficult. Yeah. And but I'm having to learn to do that. And I think it's good for me and good for others to do that. But it's uh it's scary. You're right. I think it's a good word to use.

SPEAKER_03 51:17

Oh yeah, it is. It is very scary because I had a grandfather that was a raging alcoholic. Yeah. And my dad he only had certain nights and it was only a couple of beers, and he was always out dancing with mama. That would be the only time that he drank. Yeah. And that's what I grew up with, you know.

SPEAKER_06 51:42

Yeah, I grew up with the coming in, he'd shoot up the house with his gun because he was mad, or him and mom are fighting, and got her held over the banister in the back porch of the house, and or their fizz fighting in in the bedroom, and it's that crazy stuff.

SPEAKER_03 51:57

And I think we was more worried about mom shooting at us. Because dad had this way of he never would tell mom what he was about to do. Gotcha. And he would just get up and go. And when he got home what's that old saying, it's better to ask forgiveness than it is permission. Yeah. That's where his whole mentality was, you know.

SPEAKER_06 52:27

Yeah. My mom, she introduced me to rock and roll music. My dad introduced me to country music.

SPEAKER_02 52:33

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 52:33

Um, didn't do a whole lot with my dad, but I that's where my country influence came from, was him. But um, I was close to my mom for many years. She um she was bipolar and schizophrenic, and um while medicated, she was as solid as a day as long. When not medicated, her cheese came completely off her cracker, especially towards the end of her life. But um I love the cheese off the cracker.

SPEAKER_03 52:59

That's funny. Oh, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_06 53:01

But it was it it it was an interesting growing up in that crazy environment, which there's a lot of I'm sure there's gonna be some songs that come out of that at some point that as I process.

SPEAKER_03 53:12

But uh more you process it, the more it'll come out.

SPEAKER_06 53:15

Yeah, ah Yeah, yeah. But it's it's been it's been uh I had a great growing up time and and uh and it's it's helped me to be a better man today, I think.

SPEAKER_02 53:29

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 53:30

Um and I I didn't one thing that helped me not do is I didn't touch alcohol or anything until me and my wife got together and I was 50 and I uh I tried uh I wasn't gonna touch that.

SPEAKER_03 53:44

I was just forty now.

SPEAKER_06 53:46

I was forty, I wasn't beating I was forty whenever I I took my first drink, but um but you know the way he conveyed that, it was like hmm yeah, it's it's helped me to learn to be a little more self-disciplined and yeah, and um and and helped me not to maybe fall into some of the traps that I would have fallen on otherwise. So yeah. Um yeah, it's been a it's been a good journey. Awesome. I love it. I can't wait to see what all you do with it. Me too. Uh I'm 53 now and I feel the urgency to if I'm gonna do something, let's let's go ahead and get it, let's get it done. I feel I feel the clock ticking. Does that make sense? Yeah. I didn't until my dad recently died. He died last summer. Yeah. My mom killed herself 14, 15 years ago. Uh dad died last summer, and um something about both your parents being gone for me uh really made time become more precious. Yeah. Because I realize I'm the next generation that's gonna be gone. You know what I mean? That's that's a funky, weird reality to come to. I never thought about it until he died, and I was like, wow, I'm the oldest of the three boys, so I'm the next group.

SPEAKER_05 55:04

Yeah, that's gonna be going out of here.

SPEAKER_06 55:06

And um I still got stuff I want to do. I still got some influence I want to leave in this world. And well, you gotta make your mark. I do, I do. And I've left it in a lot of different ways, some good, some bad. Well, yeah. But I think there's I think there's a bigger mark I want to make than that I can make.

SPEAKER_03 55:23

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 55:23

That uh I'm just beginning to tap into.

SPEAKER_03 55:27

The one thing that I've been looking at. All those years doing live sound, all those years doing light shows. There's not that many pictures. There's not that many recordings. But um this generation, it's all over YouTube, it's all over here, it's socials, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. We got what we got now, Caitlin, 310 shows or something like that out there. I'm kind of leaving my legacy.

SPEAKER_05 56:03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 56:04

Because I want something that my family could be. Hey, look what David used to do. Yeah, you know. You gotta leave that legacy, I believe.

SPEAKER_06 56:14

You do. And that's kind of what I'm doing with my music. And I'm also doing that with instruments, and I made fun about buying guitars a while ago when we were talking, but um I've I've been slowly investing in high quality guitars. Yeah. Because my plan is when I die to leave one really good guitar that I play personally to each of my children and to all of my grandchildren. And all to have one that's personally from me. That if they wind up selling it and making money off of it, or if they keep it because of sentimental, whatever they want to do, but it's something I can pass on to them that's worth something of value that you know you know, that's personal.

SPEAKER_03 56:52

Yeah. Um and um just a tidbit. Each guitar, whichever song you wrote with that guitar, make sure that song stays with that guitar. That's good. I ain't even thought about that.

SPEAKER_06 57:09

Uh yeah, I like that.

SPEAKER_03 57:11

Because then it makes that guitar that much more. Sure does.

SPEAKER_06 57:18

That's a good idea. Thank you for sharing that. Yeah, that's a good good thought.

SPEAKER_03 57:23

Because I can't play.

SPEAKER_06 57:27

I heard. I listened to the podcast, and you've talked about that.

SPEAKER_03 57:31

I can't play.

SPEAKER_06 57:32

But you can do the sound, that's important too. Well, because you suck if you don't do your job right.

SPEAKER_03 57:39

What's it what's really important is I quit touching in boards over there and just let Caitlin do it.

SPEAKER_06 57:45

Well, she's got a bachelor's degree to do it, so well, yeah, you know.

SPEAKER_03 57:49

And it's uh it's crazy how everything has gone from digital. It's not like it used to be.

SPEAKER_06 58:00

I do all my recordings up to this point at a little studio in Woodruff, South Carolina called Studio 101. Guy named Brad Phillips owns it. Great, great guy. And um he's like you in that when he first started, it was all analog and everything was real real and all that, and it's transitioned over. So I could not fully appreciate the journey y'all have been through. Oh, I am fascinated now. When I first went to do my first song last year, um I was blown away by that studio experience. All the equipment, all the sound that comes out of it, the the the way they can mix things and oh it's amazing what you can create. Incredible.

SPEAKER_02 58:44

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 58:45

And and he doesn't tweak my voice, no auto-tune or anything, but man, the way he can make everything sound so blended together is just phenomenal. And then and then he'll send me the demo and he'll say, What do you want me to change? What do you what do you hear that I need to work on with this? And I'll say, I think the fiddle was too loud, or can you bring my voice up in this second verse? Because I think it dies out a little bit. Yeah. And uh I mean he can go in there with just within seconds, it seems like.

SPEAKER_03 59:17

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 59:17

And tweak this and and there it is, and he'll send it right back to me.

SPEAKER_03 59:21

Well have you done any songs on the podcast yet? On yours? On any podcast. Did last night uh playlisted.

SPEAKER_02 59:33

Yes. Okay.

SPEAKER_03 59:34

Uh well, let's do another one. Okay. Because then you're gonna be blown away with what Miss Caitlin can do over there.

SPEAKER_06 59:42

Wonderful, wonderful.

SPEAKER_03 59:43

All right. Well, I'm maybe not breaking. You can set forward if you want to. Whatever makes you comfy.

SPEAKER_05 59:50

It's good.

SPEAKER_00 59:50

Yeah, you can adjust however you need.

SPEAKER_03 59:54

And bring the mic to you. Hello?

SPEAKER_06 59:59

That's why I said you can set forward or whatever you want to do. So I wrote this song uh beginning of this year. I have one of my co-workers that text me late one Saturday night, and she said, Preacher, me and my husband are at the beach. We've been drinking, we're drunk, and we've been arguing. He just left, and I'm worried about him. Would you please pray for us? I said, I'll be happy to. So I prayed for him, and then with like an hour, I wrote the song. It was called Drink Some More.

SPEAKER_05 1:00:30

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:00:40

Ever since you left me, I've been drinking. And a drowned memory. All that I did. Where's the smoking anger? Here's a major crystal whiskey.

SPEAKER_03 1:03:16

I noticed that when he first started. I was like I did.

SPEAKER_06 1:03:20

It was so loud in my headphones it distracted me for a minute.

SPEAKER_03 1:03:26

Oh, why don't you turn it down?

SPEAKER_06 1:03:28

Oh, I didn't want to stop playing.

SPEAKER_03 1:03:30

Well, you're fine.

SPEAKER_06 1:03:32

It's called edit, edit, edit. That's right, that's right. I forgot. I forgot you can do that.

SPEAKER_03 1:03:36

We do all that stuff nowadays.

SPEAKER_06 1:03:39

Yeah, that was uh uh one of those that come out of a life experience. So yeah. Uh a lot of my songs come out of life experience. Yeah. Well, that's the way they need to be. Yeah. That's the art of storytelling. Yes, it is. And that's what I love about writing, is you can tell this story. First one I ever wrote, I have uh a gentleman in one of my churches. His mom and dad were married for um 65 years, which is amazing in itself. Yeah. Um the dad was in his early 90s, mom in her late 80s. They had went in and cleared the plaque out of her arteries and her legs so she had better circulation. Some of that plaque broke loose, went to her brain, she had a brain bleed, and she died.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:24

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 1:04:25

And so as she's in the hospice dying over a couple of days period, uh, he asked me, Would you come up and pray with my parents? And I said, I'd be happy to. So I went up there and tried to minister to them best I could. Well, when the when the mom died, the dad said, It won't be long and I'll be with her. Nobody but the Lord knew two nights later, the night before her funeral, he would get up in the middle of the night, lose his balance, fall, hit his head on the corner of his bed, and two days later he would die. Wow. So within four days of each other, yeah, they die. And so they held her body until his was prepared, and we did the funerals together. Yeah, all those years together, they go out together. And so I woke up uh one morning before the funeral with the song I'll be soon, I I'll be there soon. Already done. Yeah tune everything. And it's the husband singing to the wife saying, We've had a good life together, and now you're going on, it won't be long, and I'll be with you. And and they were the inspiration for that. And so I have found tapping into that life experience has given me some of the richest ground to work with right now. Oh, yeah. You know, you try to come up with songs that are just out of the blue, nothing connected to you songs. I have a hard time doing that. It's it's gotta be something I can sink my teeth into.

SPEAKER_03 1:05:50

You know, that's that's one thing that is uh interested me. Because there's so many songs. Rope a day nowadays. How many of them are actually lived? That's what I want to get back to because I want to get to all those things that we experienced in life that these songwriters actually used to write about and bring them forward, you know, and because I don't there's only so many times you can write so many different versions of a song.

SPEAKER_02 1:06:40

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:06:42

But there's some songs out there that nobody even wants to kind of go around them or or try to write anything spinoff or any of that other stuff, you know. The one song that sticks out the most with me is a song that nobody has ever, ever even tried to do a rendition of you don't even hear of other artists trying to cover it or anything, and that's George Jones. He stopped loving her today. One guy. Yeah. One song. That's it. It's you're done. Shut the door, you're done.

SPEAKER_05 1:07:30

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:07:31

And you don't ever hear about all that stuff going on. So I think that's that's what I'm liking about your writing from your knowledge, your history, things that you've seen, and that's what I'm really liking.

unknown 1:07:46

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 1:07:47

I'm glad. I'm glad. I'm glad you're you're enjoying and encouraged by that, because that's that's about all I've got to give.

SPEAKER_05 1:07:53

You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_06 1:07:54

Is it's well, I mean that that's uh to me, that's what life is, is is sharing that story with each other. Yeah. And I that's one thing I love about this podcast today, is just since I walked in here, we have just been like two old friends talking. There you go. I've enjoyed this thoroughly.

SPEAKER_03 1:08:09

That's uh, you know, I told somebody else it's if you take a look back through music, it goes all the way back to the caveman days, the drums of the Indians and everything else, and I know you remember like I do, there used to be a place where farmers hung out, and some of them old farmers turned into whittlers, and they would whittle and sit there and tell stories and talk, and part of that generation of kids that were drug along, we would sit there and play with our matchbox cars and stuff, and while they're sitting there whittling, and you would just sit there and listen to the stories, and a lot of it was like you think old Man Farmer actually done that? And then another kid would be like, they said it, he done it. Yeah, you know, yeah, there was no embellishments, there was not it was fact that was it.

SPEAKER_06 1:09:19

Yeah. But that's when people wanted truth and and and the true story was more interesting than made up something that I think is I think it's because people were out doing things then. Yeah. Now we got people sitting in their basements all their watching TV and on on video games and computers, and and nobody's living life experiencing that stuff anymore.

SPEAKER_03 1:09:41

The easiest thing in the world to write is when you're sitting on a computer and you can write you suck to somebody that you don't even know if they actually do suck. Yeah, yeah, that's right. Yeah, it's just reality of life. Everything needs to get back to the reality of life.

SPEAKER_06 1:10:00

Yeah. Yeah. Kids need to go back outside and start playing in the dirt again, and people need to get back to meeting each other and talking to your neighbor next door, knowing who they are. And uh I think it's it's it's a statement on our culture and society that front porches are gone off houses now. You know, it's not like it used to be. You know, every house used to have a big front porch. There's one here. Yeah, where people would sit and talk and meet, and you knew your neighbors, and now we've got little steps on a lot of houses. That's it.

SPEAKER_03 1:10:29

Yes. Uh, you do know he's gonna be writing a song about this for the next two days, maybe he'll have something come up on that. I love it. Kyle, thanks so much for being on. Thank you for having me. It's been a joy. You know you're welcome back anytime.

SPEAKER_06 1:10:44

Thank you, bro.

SPEAKER_03 1:10:45

We'll hang out and talk and do whatever. And uh who knows, we might get a Leon in here sometime. That'd be good.

SPEAKER_06 1:10:54

I think he's here next week. Probably. Uh actually about yeah, it's next week. He ain't warned me yet, so yeah. CMA week. Is that next this coming weekend, isn't it? That is next weekend, I think. Okay. Yeah, yeah, he'll be here. Yep. Yeah, he uh he opened up his big hurricane central place down there that he's calling God Country now. Yeah. We did a big show down there last uh Saturday a week ago.

SPEAKER_03 1:11:18

I just want the RV for a weekend. Yeah. Yeah. Leon, I want the R V for the weekend. That's right. Well, connecting us. Yeah. It'll be fun. Yes. Brother Matt, tell everybody where they can find you on the social medias and all that other good stuff.

SPEAKER_06 1:11:39

All right. You can find me under Kyle Anton Music, and it's K-I-L-E A-N-T-O-N-E. Kyleanton Music.com. I'm on all the social medias. I knew that went off earlier. I'm on all the social medias. Um Spotify, Pandora, iTunes, I'm on all that stuff too, and everything's linking back to my website. So uh you can find me all over the internet. Sweet.

SPEAKER_03 1:12:05

I love it. All right, we're gonna get off here and tell everybody bye. We'll see y'all later. All right, everybody. Remember, please like, share, follow, and subscribe. It helps us all from this old podcaster to Kyle, his music coming up, everything he's been doing, to all these other artists that you actually like and you like to hear their music and see all the stuff about them. Go help these people out because these booking agents are looking at their numbers, their streams, their subscribers, their followers. This is how you get these artists in your town. Trust me, these artists want to come to your town, they want to hang out, they want to see you, they want to shake your hand, they want to take a picture because music is one huge community of helping each other. Let's get it going. All right, love y'all, mean it. Bye.