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Michael Peterson Singer Songwriter

Host: David Bradley Season 4 Episode 50

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SPEAKER_00

Audio voyeur.

SPEAKER_01

Audio Voyeur. Yeah. It's amazing. But I that's what blows me away about how much podcasting is actually blown up, man. It's like everybody's got a podcast now.

SPEAKER_00

Well, you know, access is easy. Uh and then how you scale it, you know, that's a whole other trick. But but the fact that people can find a place to have their voice be heard, you know, even if it's just by their friends, you know, that was not possible years ago.

SPEAKER_01

So well, it's uh yeah, that's what I was I was talking to Caitlin about it. And back in the day when I was growing up in Nashville, we had a disc jockey, and I can't remember his freaking name, and it's driving me nuts. But he had an alter ego that was called Bubba Skinnard. Okay. And I used to could mimic him a little bit, and I was sitting there trying to figure it out while ago, and yeah, I'd I'd have to try and re-listen to that, but I don't know if there's any tapes or anything out there that I could actually re-listen to, you know.

SPEAKER_00

Well, you know, it's interesting you talk about tapes, sort of a quick uh hard pivot here, but have you seen that new movie Power Power Ballad? No, oh my gosh, amazing! Like if you if you it's about a guy who basically gets his song stolen by a superstar, and Paul Redd plays in it, and you know, I thought, I don't know, it's sort of a rom-com. I don't know if I'm gonna dig it or not. It it was it was a deeply moving movie, and uh you know what when if if you choose to go watch that movie, you'll understand why I brought it up when you said, I wonder if there's a tape somewhere. Yeah, yeah, it's it's it's astounding this movie, just wow. It really brought tears to my eyes, you know.

SPEAKER_01

Well, yeah, I mean, uh you know, there's a lot of shows that I've actually watched that brings back that whole time, you know. Uh what was that one?

SPEAKER_00

Rock star with with Elton John or uh or Queen?

SPEAKER_01

No, it was uh had another guy in it that was like in a band, like a knockoff band, and then the lead singer of the band that he was actually they loved, they mimicked. Uh the the lead singer they fired him and brung him in. I can't remember if it was called Rockstar or what it was. I have no idea. You didn't really narrow it down. I know.

SPEAKER_00

Well, there's a there's a lot of those those uh kinds of biopics that are I don't know, you might call them suit pseudo-documentaries or mockumentaries. Yeah, you know. Um the people are really interested in that stuff, you know.

SPEAKER_01

Well, I mean, uh I enjoyed Queen. I enjoyed the Elton John one. I'm thinking there was another one.

SPEAKER_00

Well, um there was a Bob Dylan one recently. I haven't seen it. That one's really good. Good, it was very good, and then there was a one about a karaoke singer sort of per impersonator uh who was doing a Neil Diamond thing. Oh, yeah, that was called Song Sung Blue.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, uh I watched it the other night.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. So that that seems to be kind of, you know, I don't know. And I suppose if it's true that you know that the media is really just a reflection of the culture, then it shows you how much on a pedestal um celebrity has become. Yeah. And uh, and I think it also probably is a reflection of the baby boom generation, um, you know, kind of hitting 65 and plus. Yeah. So nostalgia is a big thing. Um, and then I think, you know, the other thing that may have something to do with it is I hear from a lot of young people that they love the music of the 70s, 80s because it was different than the music that's being made now. And so this you know this music uh uh and this this rise in popularity for music that's decades old. I don't know if you saw recently, but in Billboard magazine they said that uh the number of people uh under the age of 30, and I'm I'm I'm not getting my numbers exactly right, but I'm close on this. The number of people under the age of 30 that were starting to listen to 90s country had tripled in a course of a year.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Because there's something about it that they feel from it, and you know, uh, I'm not putting down modern music at all. Um, but you know, if you talk about a bunch of people in a studio making a record, and then you talk about somebody typing in a prompt into AI, there's a gigantic difference in terms of the heart and soul of it, you know. So I I think that that shows up in all of those ways that ends up being like here's some movies about some music that was killer and these people and the lives they lived, and it has a broad appeal. Anyway, I'm going long on that, but that's I'm thinking about that when you say that, you know.

SPEAKER_01

Well, it's that's one of the things that I did reel-to-reel recording back when I first started. Yeah, and they transfer transferred over to the uh ADAT, yeah. And we recorded full band in the room, yeah, right. There wasn't there wasn't none of this tracking crap, yeah. And um vinyl. I mean, dude, you just yeah.

SPEAKER_00

I mean, think about the records that the Beatles made on four tracks, yeah. Or any any any great artist sort of pre-1965, yeah. Like when you had when you really had to be able to sing, like there's a reason why there was only a handful of superstar artists, because you had to really be able to sing.

SPEAKER_01

You couldn't phone it in and have them fix it later, or sit at your house with a microphone and do the vocal track and then send it to the producer, yeah, and have him put it through auto-tune or whatever.

SPEAKER_00

I'm sorry, are you picking up that noise?

SPEAKER_03

Uh yeah, it sounds like a phone vibrating.

SPEAKER_00

No, it's not. It's the guy, the guys across the street are cutting a tree down. I had no idea today. If it becomes cumbersome, let me know. I I can't, there's no way I can get around it. But it does remind me of a story I heard once, though. A buddy of mine um was being tried for for uh, and this is a long story, but he was being tried for hijacking a United Airlines jet. And uh I met him years and years after that it all happened. But during his trial, there were some guys with a jackhammer down below the courtroom breaking up the cement, and the judge told the bailiff to go down to these guys and tell them to knock it off. And they said, Well, we can't quit or we'll get fired. So the bailiff came up, told the judge they said that. Judge told the bailiff, Well, then you go back downstairs and arrest those guys and bring them and their jackhammer up in my courtroom. And my friend's telling me the story like this all happened during his trial. And I like there was like two other people that were tried before him. One of them uh, you know, uh robbed a train or something like that with a water pistol and a pocket knife. And the other one, he when his parents went on vacation, he's he stole everything in their home, sold it, and then and then uh he was on trial with his judge. And when the judge sentenced him, he said to the judge, I'm when I get out of here, I'm gonna kill you. He said, he said, he's thinking to himself, when the judge gets to me, he's gonna be worn out and pissed. Anyway, but I so I can't, I'm not, I can't go out and rest these guys for cutting the tree down across the street, but but we'll make the best of it.

SPEAKER_01

Just uh when we get off of here, just go out there and go, uh, by the way, I gotta charge you guys $500 because you know you ruined my podcast.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. Well, and and honestly, I'm I'm feeling a little embarrassed by it. Is it is gonna work okay or not?

SPEAKER_01

No, it's fine.

SPEAKER_00

Okay.

SPEAKER_01

It's just a little hum on our side.

SPEAKER_00

Okay. Yeah, you could probably you could probably use a frequency to pull that out.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. Little EQ on that'll pull it out.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. That's crazy. Yeah, it all is. At least they didn't have the what's that machine they got where they grind all the limbs up and everything else.

SPEAKER_00

That would be well, they have that out there too. That's wild. I think that's coming next. So we're we're basically going from bad to worse.

SPEAKER_01

They picked a great time. Yeah, they picked a wonderful time.

SPEAKER_00

I you know, I've been I've been gone all day. I got home in time so I could be here for this interview. So I've really been looking forward to meeting you. And uh here we are.

SPEAKER_01

So that's crazy. La la la la la. But yeah, um, back to what I was saying though. It uh I'm finding with a lot of these newer artists, the younger generation, they're wanting to get back to that warmth and depth of vinyl. How they're recording, they're all wanting to get back to that, and it's something that it warms my heart because it's like uh it's not going away. Yeah, people are wanting it back, you know, and I love that.

SPEAKER_00

Well, it's a real the nothing, what's that old saying? Ain't nothing like the real thing?

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER_00

You know, and whatever generation you're born in, you you you know one thing for sure, it either moves you or it doesn't, and you know which one moves you more.

SPEAKER_01

Well, I mean, that's that's why I firmly everything that you've seen, you know, about 90s country and everything, it's all coming back. And you take these glam metal bands of the 80s and 90s, dude, they're still doing good. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Although I do see I do see these podcasts or uh videos on YouTube uh where young people are pleaing and pleading for the old rock stars to please retire. Yeah, because they because they can't sing anymore or whatever, you know.

SPEAKER_01

Well, I mean, you know, uh they don't look like they did either.

SPEAKER_00

No, and like it or not, people hear with their eyes.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

You know, and that's you know that from years of being in in front of in front of house.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. You know, you know, and and that's what always pulled me in towards the doing the light shows and stuff, is because I could create the beauty behind the band, you know. Yeah, and I tell everybody if you're gonna have a band on stage, you gotta have a good light show. Because if you just take the lights away and just have like somebody's house light or something on, it kills the whole thing.

SPEAKER_00

It sets a tone.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

I remember one time I was going to do a show and they had a power, you know, outage. And so, you know, okay, are we gonna have the show or not? Well, we have to wait for the power to come on, and finally the promoter said, Nah, I got a better idea. He said, We're not the power's not coming back. So they got a bunch of guys, a bunch of rednecks to fire up their trucks, and everybody pointed their headlights toward the stage, and we had the show, yeah. So, you know, and in that sense, it became a novel thing that nobody will ever forget that night, you know. But you certainly you you really you want to set the tone, you know.

SPEAKER_01

Well, I mean, there's I've actually I wasn't there to witness it, but I had people tell me that there's been several times that a storm has come through and they've shut down the show because of the lightning and stuff like that. But the artists are actually taking the acoustic guitar and just setting up and playing to whoever can hear them.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, that's I was in I was in Baghdad, Iraq, and we were doing a show, and that's exactly what happened. The power went down, so they moved us from this staging area. Why they moved us here, I don't know, but they moved us to this little loading dock, loading dock that was where they loaded the food off the trucks into the kitchen. Yeah, I guess it's because it was pretty large and it was flat.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

And uh, and then they got a power generator to to generate the PA. And and soldiers, I mean, it was crazy. Like, we're in a mid right across the street from us is the Iraqi armed forces, like their head, their national army headquarters. Yeah, and and a lot of the Iraqi soldiers are looking through the fence. I mean, they're 30 feet away from me. Yeah, and and and then there's all the American uh service members that are there, but it's just what it was, you know. I and then so in the middle of that, the the generator goes down. So now it's just me and a guitar, and I don't know, 50, 75, 80 people, and that's exactly what we did. People pulled out their flashlights, and I said, Well, we don't have to be done just because the power is gone, yeah, and and uh and I'll never forget that night. It was really a special night.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, I mean it I think it brings a lot of intimacy back to the performance, you know. Yeah, because I remember I remember it was like, dude, it didn't matter if it was 30,000 people or if it was two, three hundred people, you know. The artist could pull those people into the intimacy of being on that stage.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, and you know, you're right about that. I was just talking to somebody today, and they were talking about Gwen Stefani, who had been playing here at the sphere of the residency, with no doubt. And my friend works at the sphere, so she was telling me uh she didn't really know much about Gwen Stefani before the show showed up because she's an older lady. Yeah, and and she said, I said, Well, what do you think? She said, I love her. And I said, Well, what makes you say that? She said she just treats the audience so great. She's just you're in a giant venue. She said she makes the room feel small, like everybody feels pulled right in. And you know, that's a skill, and not everybody has that gift, you know. And and when you have a lot of lights, camera, and action, you can hide the fact that you don't have that gift.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Or maybe you never develop that. So you're right. I mean, one of the best entertainers I ever saw was Kenny Rogers.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

I mean, he he walked out and he had that audience in the palm of his hand in 60 seconds. They would tell he'd tell a story, they would laugh. He'd play a hit song, he'd come back with tell another story, and it was just it was masterful.

SPEAKER_01

It was amazing how a lot of those people. And it's like you said, it is a gift. Not everybody's got it, but the people that do, oh my god.

SPEAKER_00

They put a certain kind of charisma, right?

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, it's it's they have that it's like they walk out on stage and they've got the audience in the palm of their hand, man. It's just like, take my hand, let's have fun, you know. I love that.

SPEAKER_00

And isn't that what people come to a show for? They come to have an experience, they don't come to hear you sing songs about your life, they come to hear you sing songs about their life.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER_00

You know, and uh I think another thing that I heard once that really stayed with me was uh Minnie Pearl is is said to have made this comment. She said, There's two kinds of artists. There's one that gets on the stage and says, Here I am, and then there's another that gets on the stage and says, There you are. Yeah, you know, and and we all know the difference when we see it. You know, like when Dolly Parton walks on stage, it's like she's saying, There you are. Yep, you know, and I just love that.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, it's uh a lot of people don't have that, and I wish they did, you know, and it's it's kind of hard to point them out.

SPEAKER_00

When you see it though, you know it, you know, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, because it it's just like sometimes you don't want to be mean to people, but it's like, damn, come on. Oh Lord. So Michael, I is is that what happened with you know you getting hooked up with Star Vista and and getting all your music bringing it back on on uh a new platform?

SPEAKER_00

Well, you know, I careers have arcs, yeah, and seasons, and I've had a couple of arcs in my in my career. And when when my time in the spotlight of the 90s as a 90s artist, where I had songs on the radio that you know were were sitting in the top ten on radio across the nation and around the world, when that time when that time shifted, I found myself in a season where I really uh made a decision that I was gonna step away from that spotlight and step away from trying to uh get another record deal, you know. Yeah um, but I I didn't decide in that position to go get another job. I decided I was still gonna be an artist, but I was gonna be an independent artist. And so, you know, that would have been uh maybe 2003.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

From 2003 until now, essentially, I I didn't go away. I, you know, before the pandemic, I was doing 200 days a year on the road.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Um, and I kept making albums, like I made 10 or 12 albums in the over the course of that time. But the only people that heard those albums were people who came to my shows.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

And if they had those albums, it's because they bought them at a show. Because I didn't have a record deal and I didn't have a distribution deal, and I was just focused on doing my art and going to playing shows. And so uh after the pandemic, you know, kind of came and went, and I and I was trying to figure out was I ready to retire, or did I want to still experience the sharing of those moments with an audience?

SPEAKER_03

Right.

SPEAKER_00

Um, life unfolded, very short version of the story, but life unfolded for me to have a new team around me. And and Star Vista is part of that team, and I'm I'm part of their team, I guess, too, in a way, that if you want to think about it that way. And Star Vista is known for finding recordings that have real value that maybe haven't had a light shown on them.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

So as we went through these albums that I made over this 10-year period, they were never released commercially. There might have been pieces of them on the internet where somebody bought one, put something on YouTube or whatever. Um, but Star Vista came to me and said, hey, you know, just to begin with, there's three of these albums that we think really people are really gonna love and we should put them out.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

So so they're not albums that were ever released, you know, a long time ago. They and they're not old music because I I think about this way music never gets wrinkles, you know. Um, if if it still sounds, if it doesn't, if it still sounds contemporary from an audio audio standpoint, and it sounds compete competitive in that way, um, and you've never heard it before, then it's new music to you. Yeah, and so you know, it's uh depending on how you look at it, it's fair to say that these are three new albums. Uh, there's two that were released uh in in May. Um uh an album called Down on the Farm, which was an album I created as a special product for the New Holland Farm Equipment Manufacturing Company as a fundraiser for American Cancer Society and for raising money for FFA for students that were in agriculture. The other album was an album called We Are Veterans, which was born of me doing over 500 performances in places like Iraq, Afghanistan, Qatar, Kuwait, you know, all across the Middle East, Korea, uh, all over the United States, Alaska. Uh, and doing all of those shows, there about halfway through that journey of 500 plus shows, I started to recognize that there seemed to be a handful of songs that I would play that the audience was really, really responding to and was asking me where I can get a copy of that. And of course, I didn't have an album of these songs, I was just playing them.

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SPEAKER_00

So I decided it would be good to make a record. So I made this record, and uh the month that the album was finished, the record company went bankrupt.

SPEAKER_01

Oh lord.

SPEAKER_00

So I so I ended up the album never ended up coming out, and I ended up owning the Masters. So those are the two albums that 99% of your listeners, maybe 100% of your listeners, have never heard. They were made in the 90s, they've got that 90s sound, and they were albums that were created for a purpose. Right. So they have they really have a focus around them. The third album is an album called In Black, and that will come in the fall. And uh that is an album that Star Vesta feels has real commercial potential now, um, in a way that the other two albums were maybe more uh topical albums. They were albums that were created for a certain per you know a certain purpose, whereas the In Black Record was just another uh my attempt to make another great record. Um so starting in August through December and January, they're gonna be releasing a new single every month. And then in February, the album will come out. It's an album called In Black. So between now and then, um I'll be in the studio working on you know what would be hot off the griddle new material. Yeah. And uh, and just you know, excited to see where I can find those places where I can connect my music with people's desire to laugh, to have a good time, to feel, to, to felt, to feel as though they, hey, that's my song. I knew that's me, they're singing about.

SPEAKER_01

Yep. Well, I mean, you know, I've I know a bunch of singer-songwriters, and that's one thing that I've actually brought up to them before. Where's that song that you cut out? Nobody's heard it. Right. Bring it back, right? And then I keep hearing it's outdated, and I'm like, no, it's not.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Bring it back.

SPEAKER_00

You know, the feedback that I've gotten in the last month since we put out these two albums, and this is from even from people that had happened to have been at a show and heard some of those songs. Many of those people didn't realize that necessarily these were new recordings. I mean, that not that they were the same songs. Yeah, and most people are saying, wow, I love you, new album. So, you know, it and and it it is a new album in a sense that it's never been released before, you know. So, um, you know, you can go back and forth on that semantics all day long. The reality is this I had a bunch of music that had really never been heard. This is a chance to have people hear it, which for me is exciting to me because I don't want it to be just uh lost on my hard drive somewhere, yeah. As I ride off into the sunset. So I'm excited about that. And and the music is music that people are really identifying with.

SPEAKER_01

It I'm that person that I think every song needs to be heard, yeah, yeah. And because you never know who it's gonna touch, who it's gonna help. You never know. And that's what I try to get across to a lot of these people. And I'm tickled to death that you're actually doing that because there's no telling what song is gonna help who.

SPEAKER_00

You know, I remember I was in my I was in my late 20s, and uh, and I was at that stage of my career where I hadn't, you know, I hadn't come to Nashville yet, I didn't have any hit records or anything like that. I was just a guy writing 30 songs a year, trying to get my friends to listen, and they had to like them, or the beer stayed in the refrigerator. Yeah, right. Yeah. So in that space, a friend asked me to come sing out at a men's prison. And I'd never done that before. I thought, well, what's that gonna be like? So I go, and there's I don't know, 15 men, and they're in chains, and they're seated in a cement room on folding metal chairs, and I'm thinking, I got all these songs that I don't even know if anybody that's not in prison likes them. Like, like you know, like how what's this gonna be like? Yeah, and and the most amazing thing happened, I'll never forget this. I played, I played my show, and men were crying and laughing and engaged and leaning in, and afterwards they wanted to say hello. And I remember just thinking, wow, like why was that such a great connection when I'll go play these songs other places and and and I'm not getting that kind of response? And a little something inside of me, people call it a voice or the spirit, whatever, but something inside of me said, Did you ever stop and think that maybe those songs aren't creating, aren't connecting with other people because those songs weren't created for those people, those songs were created for these people for this day. Yep, and I remember thinking to myself, Wow, that's a crazy thought. Like, I wrote these songs just for these guys for this day, and then that same little feeling inside of me said, Is that okay with you? You know, and I remember saying, Yeah, I think that that's okay with me. And I don't know exactly, I can't I can't show it to you on a data plot chart, but something at that point changed in my career, and it was you know, within six eight months of that, things started really opening up again. Yeah, so uh you know, it's like you said, you don't know what song is for who.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, you really don't. But I love that you're doing it. I mean, it just I wish more people would do that.

SPEAKER_00

Well, thanks, man. I appreciate the encouragement.

SPEAKER_01

Well, I mean, I can't wait because uh, you know, I told uh several people that uh I need to get give me, give me, give me, I want to hear. I want to hear, you know.

SPEAKER_00

Well, I hope you enjoy it when you have a chance.

SPEAKER_01

I'm going to. I'm uh yeah, I've got uh I got a little bit of time on my hands coming up, so hopefully I can get a lot of stuff listened to.

SPEAKER_00

Good, good. Well, if I can if I can encourage you in any way during uh you know, there's time that you have coming up, let me know.

SPEAKER_01

Uh I'll definitely do it. I mean, uh I might have to holler and say, hey, we're coming to Vegas. Please do.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, I would love to meet you in person and let's go have a bite to eat and we'll go see a show. The one of the best bands I've ever heard in my life plays every Monday night at the Copa Room. It's a band called Santa Fe and the Fat City Horns, and it's a full-on, like 18-piece band, five lead singers, full horn section, and it is smoking. Come in, man. We'll all take come in for a long weekend, we'll go see Santa Fe.

SPEAKER_01

You know what I would like to go, and it sounds weird. I'm I know it does because a lot of people won't even know what I'm talking about. But remember back in the day, way back in the 50s, when they had those little clubs that Frank Sinatra played in. They had to you could go there, you could eat, you could get up and dance, and you sing the show, and they had full bands, they had strings, they had horns. They had it all, man. I mean, it was just to me, that was the shit.

SPEAKER_00

You know, there's there's a couple of spots here in town where that kind of thing still happens.

SPEAKER_01

That would be awesome.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, but but they are they are populated from an artist's standpoint uh by people that aren't nationally known artists. They're there they'd be local artists, yeah. But they're still talented people. And then there's another great event that happens here once a month. Vegas is such a great songwriting town. People don't think of it that way, but there's an event called The Composer's Showcase of Las Vegas. And it happens at the Smith Center in a room called Myron's Cabaret Jazz Room. And every every uh once a month on this Wednesday night, um the best talent in town, like the people that play in the pit bands for the big artists that are in town. Like that, you know, because it not everybody brings a full orchestra, right? They they hire local players. So the best players in town um all come and donate their time on a Wednesday night once a month um to be a part of this event because all the money that's that goes from ticket sales is is used to create scholarships for young people that in music education to create a fund for musicians who are have fallen on hard times and need help.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

I mean, it's it's a spectacular event. And on a given night there, you'll hear a wide swath of genres of music, from folk to rock to rap to country to Broadway. And and it's there's usually 16, 17 acts. Everybody sings one song, but the key is you can't perform unless you either wrote the song or the writer who wrote the song is in the room and you're just singing it for them. And and there's a full band, sometimes there's big like a string section, full horn section. I mean, it's it's just really that it's really a spectacular event that happens here.

SPEAKER_01

That would be awesome. That sounds like fun. We might as well do that.

SPEAKER_00

Well, it sounds like it sounds like what you're talking about in a in a more of a like it's not a regular club, yeah, but it becomes a club once once a month.

SPEAKER_01

Right. You know. It sounds like fun.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, it is fun.

SPEAKER_01

Of course, I wished I could go back in time and go see Sinatra and the rat pack. I just love those old guys, man.

SPEAKER_00

Hey, the songs. Well, the songs were great.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

I mean, the songs had a beginning, a middle, and an end. They were they were timeless, they were universal.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, and they told a story.

SPEAKER_00

You know, I was talking to somebody the other day, and they they uh said to me, you know, the difference between now and the music is old, and I said, No, and this was a college student, so I'm listening, you know, keenly, and uh, and she said, you know, there's those old songs tell stories, and I said, Well, don't the new songs tell stories? And she said, Well, yeah, but the story's like, okay, a guy and a girl at a bar and they're hanging out with their friends. And then she stopped. I'm like, what's the rest of the story? But she made it clear that to her that was about as deep and white as it went. And and and I'm not saying that that to be critical of anything new or modern, but I'm just saying there's a these feelings that you get about uh different generations had a different way of sharing a story, right?

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, and it's there's some that when you hear a story, it takes you through the story, yeah. But there are some songs out there that just show you a piece of the story, yeah. And keeps rehashing it, and I don't like that.

SPEAKER_00

Well, it's like hearing a joke and hearing the punchline over and over and over again, right? Exactly. It may be funny the first time, but by the third time you're like, you know, so you say to yourself, I mean, we've all bought albums and said, Well, after you've listened to it, you say, Well, that's the only time I'll ever listen to that record, you know.

SPEAKER_01

Thanks for wasting my day.

SPEAKER_00

Well, yeah, you know, or there's one good song on the album, you know.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Which I think is part of the popularity reason for the popularity of streaming. People can build their own playlists.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, they can. All right, Michael, thanks for being on, but I mean, I'm really stoked about what all you got going on. And it's gonna be, I think, is gonna do some awesome things, and it's gonna open a lot of people's eyes.

SPEAKER_00

Well, thank you for uh taking time to to uh bring me on your show and bring me, introduce me to your listeners. And uh I sure hope you do follow up and come to Vegas and we'll go hear some music.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, we'll have a good time. I don't know if I'll get Caitlin to come with me or not, but I might have to twist her arm. She's like, uh we'll have fun.

SPEAKER_00

Well, we'll have fun because we're there, you know. We'll we'll bring the party with us.

SPEAKER_01

Exactly. I mean, that's the way it yeah, that's how it used to be back in the day. It was uh, you know, we bring the party no matter where it was.

SPEAKER_00

That's right.

SPEAKER_01

Just have some fun with it. Yeah, right. Michael, tell everybody where they can find you, man.

SPEAKER_00

Michael Peterson, my name, P-E-T-E-R-S-O-N, Michael Peterson Music.com. Awesome, and then you also all the socials you can find me. I'm not the Michael Peterson that murdered his wife, or the writer. Yeah, that's the same guy. Yeah, I'm the other Michael Peterson. It's like my friend wrote a song called I'm the other Al Capone.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, there you go. You know, so that's funny. Yeah, Al Capone.

SPEAKER_00

Mark McGwinn. You remember a song called Mrs. Stephen Rudy? It was a number one hit on a small indie label, number one billboard hit. Mark McGwin wrote that, but he he's a great songwriter, and he wrote this song, I'm the other Al Capone. And it's all about people who had the dis the misfortune to be born with the name of a famous or infamous person. You know, what a what a challenge that would be, you know.

SPEAKER_01

That would be wild, yeah. So cool beans. All right, we're gonna stay in touch, man. Thank you. All right, buddy. See you later. Okay, God bless. All right, bless you. All right, everybody. Please remember to like, share, follow, and subscribe. It helps us all. And go check out Michael's stuff because I'm telling you, if y'all have a love for that 90s feel country music, go check out the new stuff that he's got going on. And I'm gonna make sure I say these names of these down on the farm. Check that out. And we are veterans. Check that out. And uh, I believe it was called, didn't he say it was in the black? In the black, I think it was. I don't know. Do you want me to pull him back up? I don't remember. Uh, but it was it was uh black, it was something black, in the black, I believe it was. But anyway, y'all go check that out. Go check him out, check out his website, and remember to like, share, follow, and subscribe because it does help us all. We appreciate you. Love you, mean it. Bye.